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Zhu et al. Reply: In their Comment [1] Doering et al. question our numerically found[2]onset of a transition to the ultimate regime of 2D Rayleigh-B´enard (RB) convec-tion. We disagree with their reasoning.

To irrefutably settle the issue, we have extended our numerical simulations of Ref.[2]to even larger Ra, namely, now up to Ra¼ 4.64 × 1014, sticking to the same strict numerical resolution criteria of both boundary layer (BL) and bulk. The simulation at the highest Ra was performed with a grid resolution of31 200 × 25 600 with 28 points in the boundary layer. The evidence for the transition to the ultimate regime remains overwhelming:

(1) On the global heat transfer: Nu (Ra), compensated with Ra0.357, is shown in Fig. 1(a). An objective least squares fit of an effective power law Nu∼ Raγ to the last 6 data points gives a scaling exponentγ ¼ 0.345; the last 5 data points giveγ ¼ 0.345, the last four data points giveγ ¼ 0.352, the last 3 data points give γ ¼ 0.357, and the last 2 points giveγ ¼ 0.358; i.e., no matter how the data are interpreted, the scaling exponent isalways larger than 1=3 and monotonically increasing with Ra.

(2) The key part of Ref.[2]deals withlocal properties of the flow; see Figs. 2–4 of that Letter. For the local heat flux in the plume ejecting regime, beyond 1013 the effective

scaling exponents are close to γ ¼ 0.38, see Fig. 1. In contrast, it remains≤ 1=3 in the plume impacting regime, which therefore with increasing Ra loses more and more relevance for the overall heat transfer.

(3) Beyond1013, the horizontal velocity profilesuþðyþÞ in the BLs become logarithmic (see Fig. 2 of Ref. [2]), signaling a turbulent BL, which is characteristic for the ultimate regime (as a presumption to derive the ultimate regime scaling in Refs.[3,4]), rather than one of laminar type as in the classical regime.

(4) Finally, the transition to ultimate RB turbulence in the numerical data of Ref. [2] has also been confirmed through an extended self-similarity (ESS) analysis of the temperature structure functions; see Ref.[5]. In that paper we find no ESS scaling before the transition. However, beyond the transition and for large enough wall distance yþ > 100, we find clear ESS behavior, as expected for a

scalar in a turbulent boundary layer. Therefore, also that analysis provides strong evidence that the observed transition in the global Nusselt number around Ra¼ 1013 indeed is the transition from a laminar type BL to a turbulent type BL.

Xiaojue Zhu,1,2 Varghese Mathai,1,3 Richard J. A. M. Stevens,1 Roberto Verzicco4,1 and Detlef Lohse1,5

1

Physics of Fluids Group and

Max Planck Center for Complex Fluid Dynamics MESA+ Institute and

J. M. Burgers Centre for Fluid Dynamics University of Twente

P.O. Box 217, 7500AE Enschede, Netherlands 2

Center of Mathematical Sciences and Applications, and School of Engineering and Applied Sciences

Harvard University

Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138, USA 3

School of Engineering, Brown University Providence, Rhode Island 02912, USA 4

Dipartimento di Ingegneria Industriale University of Rome‘Tor Vergata’ Via del Politecnico 1, Roma 00133, Italy

5Max Planck Institute for Dynamics and Self-Organization 37077 Göttingen, Germany

Received 24 January 2019; published 16 December 2019 DOI:10.1103/PhysRevLett.123.259402

[1] C. R. Doering, S. Toppaladoddi, and J. S. Wettlaufer, preceding Comment, Phys. Rev. Lett. 123, 259401 (2019).

[2] X. Zhu, V. Mathai, R. J. A. M. Stevens, R. Verzicco, and D. Lohse,Phys. Rev. Lett.120, 144502 (2018).

[3] R. H. Kraichnan,Phys. Fluids5, 1374 (1962).

[4] S. Grossmann and D. Lohse, Phys. Fluids 23, 045108 (2011).

[5] D. Krug, X. Zhu, D. Chung, I. Marusic, R. Verzicco, and D. Lohse,J. Fluid Mech.851, R3 (2018).

0.014 0.018 0.022 1011 1012 1013 1014 (Impacting) (Ejecting) (a) (b) 108 109 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 Ra 0.015 0.02 0.025 0.03 0.035 Nu Ra -0.357 6 5 4 3 2 0.33 0.34 0.35 0.36 1/3 0.357

FIG. 1. (a) Nusselt number compensated byγ ¼ 0.357, i.e., a scaling exponent larger than theγ ¼ 1=3 necessary to prove the transition. We tookγ ¼ 0.357 for the compensated plot as with that value the last three data points show a plateau. The error bars for the data are smaller than the symbols. The inset shows the effective scaling exponent γ, obtained from a power law, fits Nu∼ Raγto the lastk data points in the main figure. It is always larger than1=3, no matter how one interprets the data. (b) The local heat transfer in the plume emitting region (with effective slope 0.38) and in the plume impacting region.

PHYSICAL REVIEW LETTERS

123, 259402 (2019)

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