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Huh!?  What!?  -­‐  Uncovering  Community  and  

Identity  through  Beat’s,  Rhymes,  and  Life  in  

Amsterdam  

        Donnie  Adams     Email:  donnieadams@gmail.com   Student  Number:  5923654  

Graduate  School  of  Social  Sciences  

Supervisor:  Dr.  Y.M  van  Ede  (submitted  on  Jan.  28th,  2014)  

1st  Reader:  Dr.  Matthijs  van  de  Port  (submitted  on  Jan.  30th,  2014)   2nd  Reader:  Dr.  Nienke  Muurling  (submitted  on  Jan.  30th,  2014)  

Key  Words:  community,  identity,  hip-­‐hop,  Amsterdam,  authenticity   Word  Count:  23,  469  

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Abstract:  In  the  course  of  this  work  the  role  of  identity  creation  and  its  relationship  to   community  is  examined  through  a  search  for  the  Hip-­‐Hop  community  of  Amsterdam   and  it’s  system  of  maintenance.  While  the  initial  research  proposal  carried  the   intention  of  uncovering  the  characteristics  of  Hip-­‐Hop  in  Amsterdam,  this  work’s   purpose  lies  more  in  arguing  for  a  base  understanding  of  community  and  identity,   which  can  work  to  unite  all  fields  of  study  (especially  the  social  sciences)  and  people  in   general.  All  begins,  lives,  and  ends  within  our  conscious  and  unconscious  individual   identity.                                                                    

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Table  of  Contents    

     

A  Moment  in  Hip  Hop?  ………   04    

Ch.  1  What  is  Hip  Hop?  ………   09      

  Searching  for  a  Space  ………   18  

 

Ch.  2  Finding  Us  and  Them:  What  is  Community?  ……….…………   28    

  The  Community  of  Self  ………   44  

 

Ch.  3  Is  There  a  Hip-­‐Hop  Community?  ……….………   56    

Ch.  4  What  Am  I  Doing  Here?  ……….………   62     References  ……….   68                                          

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A  Moment  in  Hip  Hop?    

 

Another  unexpectedly  cold  spring  day  turned  to  a  cold  Easter  night  on  the  streets  of   Amsterdam.  Riding  my  bike  North  from  the  De  Pijp  to  De  Duivel  (the  devil),  

Amsterdam’s  premiere  Hip  Hop  bar  a  7-­‐minute  ride  away,  I  couldn’t  help  but  to  be   enveloped  in  the  eerily  quiet  streets;  it’s  1AM  on  the  second  evening  of  Easter  and   most  places  never  opened  that  day  and,  if  they  did  at  all,  very  few  are  open  now.   Along  the  way,  the  historic  building  fronts  of  Amsterdam  seem  to  camouflage   together  in  darkness  and  “Gesloten,”  creating  an  uninviting  shield  of  further  

coldness  to  an  already  chilled  evening.  I  reached  every  stop  light  of  the  route  on  the   red,  but  there  was  no  need  to  stop  on  the  empty  streets  and  that  was  disappointing   because  I  was  still  a  bit  intimidated  about  going  to  sit  in  De  Duivel  alone  and  “spy”   on  my  community.    

 

I  reached  the  turn  and  it  truly  was  like  the  devil’s  den.  The  only  open  establishment   of  any  sort  I’ve  seen  on  the  entire  route,  De  Duivel  begs  your  attention  with  its   slightly-­‐brighter-­‐than-­‐blood  red  paint  making  the  frame  of  its  near  floor-­‐to-­‐ceiling   and  elbow-­‐to-­‐elbow  front  window  bleed  around  the  insignia  and  reflections  of  red   spotlights.  The  music  is  bumping.  As  I  ride  by,  I  can  see  there  are  definitely  more   than  15  people  inside.  I  locked  up  my  bike,  checked  the  microphone  on  my   headphones,  hit  record,  and  headed  inside.    

 

De  Duivel  is  a  typical  Dutch  bar,  in  that  it  is  long  and  fairly  narrow.  There  is  an  open   section  of  about  5  square  meters  in  the  front  where  you  enter,  then  the  bar  starts  to   the  right,  taking  up  more  than  half  of  the  width,  ending  soon  enough  near  the  back   to  have  another  open  space  close  to  the  DJ  booth  elevated  to  the  left  of  the  1  square   meter  stage  at  the  right.    

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As  soon  as  I  stepped  in  and  on  to  the  wood  of  the  battle-­‐ridden  floor,  I  noticed  the  DJ   was  playing  an  Eve  song  from  the  90s  then  I  glanced  at  the  back  and  immediately   saw  a  woman,  Ayesha,  I  met  two  nights  ago  at  a  friend’s  birthday  party.  We  made   eye  contact  immediately,  so  I  gave  a  nod  and  smile,  she  responded  with  the  same.   The  room  was  so  dark,  but  there  were  lights  everywhere.  The  infrared  spotlights  on   the  ceiling  made  the  red  walls  even  more  red,  while  the  soft  halogen  lights  

showcasing  the  playfully  deranged  art  hung  around  the  entire  perimeter  of  the   room  acting  as  a  halo.  Amidst  the  darkness,  brilliant  and  beautiful  light  shines   through  the  colorfully  stained  glass  around  and  behind  the  bar  and  covering  most  of   the  back  wall  behind  the  DJ  booth  and  stage.  While  the  light  is,  at  the  least,  objective,   the  insignia  and  symbolism  on  all  of  the  stained  glass  pieces  is  of  some  sort  of  devil.      

Almost  everyone  was  seated  all  the  time,  except  for  the  DJ  and  bartender,  who  were   always  standing,  plus  the  occasional  few  that  get  up  to  dance.  Of  the  thirty  people   inside,  10  took  their  coats  off,  about  12  were  engaged  in  conversation,  and  no  one,   besides  the  woman  I  had  previously  met  and  the  bartender,  seemed  the  least  bit   inviting;  scowling  and  nodding  with  the  vibe  of  the  music,  huddled  over  a  pile  of   tobacco  and  marijuana  waiting  to  be  rolled,  lit,  and  smoked  along  with  the  rest  of   the  ubiquitous  joints.  De  Duivel  is  not  a  coffee  shop  and  I’m  pretty  sure  this  activity   is  illegal,  but  it  wouldn’t  be  the  first  time  I’ve  seen  it  in  Amsterdam,  but  this  place  is   small,  right  on  a  main  strip,  and  a  cop  could  easily  walk  in  to  the  middle  of  that;  they   must  have  a  pass.    

 

After  I  got  a  beer,  I  went  over  to  say  hello  to  Ayesha.  As  Mobb  Deep???  began  to  play,   I  mentioned  that  it  seemed  a  bit  slow  and  she  proceeded  to  tell  me,  “Monday!  It’s   good  music…  it’s  the  best  music,  ‘cus  on  Friday  and  Saturday  you  have  a  lot  of   people  comin’  in  that  wanna  hear  50  Cent  and  all  of  that  crap…  and  a  couple  of  hits,   you  know,  and  whatever…  but  Monday  through  Thursday,  you  know  because  its  so   quiet,  they  can  just  make  people  happy  with  what  they  play  instead  of  getting  people  

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with  crazy  requests  and  all  that  crap  because  we  know,  we  know!”  I  told  her  I  was   there  doing  research  because  I  had  my  microphone  on  and  I  didn’t  want  to  betray   her  trust,  but  at  the  same  time  I  didn’t  tell  her  I  had  a  microphone  on  because  I  had   already  betrayed  her  trust  and  that  of  the  whole  space,  but  I  wanted  to  capture  the   music.    

 

A  short  moment  later,  I  recognized  a  man  I  met  at  the  same  party  two  nights  ago  and   he  turned  out  to  be  Ayesha’s  boyfriend.  Of  the  six  or  seven  women  inside  De  Duivel,   none  seemed  to  be  there  alone.  One  woman  was  there  with  Ayesha  and  all  the  rest   were  there  with  a  man  they  seemed  to  know  already.  Ayesha’s  boyfriend  began   asking  me  how  my  housing  situation  was  going.  I  told  him  that  I  had  an  apartment   because  my  fiancée  and  I  needed  a  bigger  space  and  then  he  unleashed  what  was   obviously  the  current  trouble  of  his  mind.  He  began  a  long  tirade  about  the  social   housing  system  and  how  long  he  had  been  waiting  for  support  with  housing,  only  to   get  a  tiny  studio  and  be  put  back  at  the  end  of  the  waiting  list.  I  wanted  to  get  out  of   this  conversation  and  at  the  same  time  I  was  completely  engaged  with  the  very   socially  marginalized,  young,  white,  male,  Hip-­‐Hop  fanatic  I’ve  been  telling  everyone   about.    

 

Regardless  of  my  interest,  I  broke  away  from  the  conversation  and  found  a  spot   along  the  wall  in  the  center  of  the  space.  From  there,  De  Duivel  didn’t  seem  so   uninviting  anymore.  It  became  clear  to  me  that  no  one  came  there  to  have  a  good   time  that  night  necessarily.  It  seemed  that  everyone  was  there  to  release  some   stress,  smoke,  and  listen  to  music  they  liked.  Sure,  this  may  be  considered  a  good   time,  but  it  appeared  to  be  far  more  consciously  therapeutic  then  a  night  out  at  a   bar.  Everyone  seemed  to  be  breathing  the  atmosphere,  consciously,  almost  like  they   were  consciously  creating  it.    

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Without  a  doubt  though,  the  master  of  ceremonies  was  the  DJ.  The  DJ,  a  fat  white   man  with  glasses,  manned  the  tables  from  above  the  crowd  and  if  there  was  a  center   of  attention  at  any  point  throughout  the  night,  it  was  the  DJ.  When  the  DJ  played   “Party  and  Bullshit”  by  the  Notorious  B.I.G.  De  Duivel  erupted  in  a  simultaneous,   “Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!”  and  all  eyes  go  straight  to  the  DJ  booth,  as  to  say,  “Good   job.  That’s  what  we  wanted.”  This  interaction  is  curious.  Who  exerts  the  greater   influence,  the  crowd  or  the  DJ?  Certainly,  the  crowd  displays  their  approval  to  the   DJ,  but  how  much  is  the  DJ  working  to  actually  gain  the  crowds  approval?  A  moment   of  conflict  may  provide  a  better  glimpse  into  this  dynamic.    

 

About  45  minutes  into  my  time  in  the  De  Duivel  the  DJ  was  playing  one  of  the  rap   anthems  of  the  world,  Shook  Ones,  by  Mobb  Deep.  Immediately  everyone  showed   their  excitement  for  the  song,  rapping  the  lyrics  before  they  even  started.  The  song   starts  and  now  everyone  is  completely  in  the  zone,  many  conversations  have  

stopped,  eyes  are  up  at  the  DJ,  hands  are  waving,  and  maybe  one  head  isn’t  bobbing.   People  continue  to  zone  out,  probably  conjuring  up  scenes  of  Eminem  in  8  Mile,  but   about  half  way  into  the  song  the  DJ  makes  a  mistake  and  the  record  skips.  Did  I   mention  the  DJ  was  using  records  and  not  CDs  or  Mp3s?  A  skip  in  a  record  is  

something  that  probably  creates  a  break  in  the  flow  less  than  half  a  second  long,  but   the  effect  is  tremendous.  It  seems  as  if  something  is  being  built  between  the  DJ  and   the  audience  and  when  the  record  skipped  it  all  came  crashing  down  into  a  million   little  pieces  and  there  was  disappointment  everywhere.    

 

At  once,  the  DJ  looks  up  in  shock  at  what  has  just  transpired,  he  turns  to  the  other   two  DJs  sitting  in  the  corner  and  gestures  that  he  doesn’t  know  what  happened  and   then  points  to  one  of  the  turntables  as  if  to  say,  “There’s  something  wrong  with  this   deck  and  that  was  definitely  not  my  fault.  The  resting  DJs  respond  with  laughs,   pointing,  and  left-­‐to-­‐right  head  shaking  (the  music  is  too  loud  to  talk).  The  entire   crowd  again  looks  to  the  DJ  and  several  people  erupt  into  a,  “Whoaaaaaa!”  

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Something  extremely  wrong  happened.  I  saw  millions  of  things  happen  this  night  in   De  Duivel  and  this  was  the  only  thing  I  can  remember  that  was  obviously  not  ok,   preferred,  expected,  or  appreciated.  It  was  like  the  DJ  was  not  there  to  simply  play   music,  but  through  the  act  of  playing  music  he  was  engaging  in  a  very  important   conversation  with  the  crowd  and  when  the  song  skipped  it  was  like  he  cursed   during  that  conversation  or  picked  up  a  different  phone  call  while  the  crowd  was   talking  to  him.  Nevertheless,  at  the  exact  same  moment  of  disappointment  there  was   forgiveness.  The  disappointment  was  certainly  genuine,  but  so  were  the  smiles  that   morphed  from  the  frowns  created  at  the  original  skipping  of  the  song.    

 

People  were  not  only  there  to  hear  music,  they  were  there  to  experience  and  uphold   an  entire  set  of  expectations  and  this  instance  was  just  a  glimpse  into  those  

expectations.  Furthermore,  while  the  DJ  is  controlling  the  music,  I  may  have  been   mistaken  about  him  being  the  master  of  ceremonies;  I  think  if  he  had  made  two  to   three  more  similar  mistakes,  he  would  have  been  taken  off  stage  –  seriously.  This   relationship  was  paramount  to  the  function  of  De  Duivel,  as  it  is  with  DJs  

everywhere,  but  how  does  all  of  this  help  answer  the  question,  what  is  Hip  Hop?   What  did  Aisha  mean  when  she  explained  De  Duivel’s  Monday  night  scene,  “because   its  so  quiet  they  can  just  make  people  happy  with  what  they  play  instead  of  getting   people  with  crazy  requests  and  all  that  crap  because  we  know,  we  know!”  What  is  it   that  we  (maybe  she  was  including  me  to  make  a  we  or  referencing  the  other  people   there)  know?                  

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Chapter  One    

What  is  Hip  Hop?    

 

Hip  Hop  is  most  typically  defined  as  a  combination  of  four  elements:  dj-­‐ing,   breakdancing,  emcee-­‐ing  (rapping),  and  graffiti  writing.  Naturally,  all  of  these  

actions  don’t  usually  occur  at  the  same  time,  place,  or  space,  but  the  definition  sticks   as  observers  try  to  encapsulate  something  larger  than  any  one  of  the  elements,  a   culture.  The  use  of  the  term  Hip-­‐Hop  is  ubiquitous,  but  it  often  is  not  in  reference  to   the  combination  of  the  aforementioned  elements,  but  rather  something  more   etheric.  This  fuzzy  space  of  what  Hip  Hop  means  is  often  either  ignored  in  academic   writing  and  conversation  amongst  participants  or  simplified  through  the  focus  of   the  author/speaker.  In  Ian  Condry’s  Hip-­‐Hop  Japan  he  explains:    

 

Some   people   complain   that   studies   of   hip-­‐hop   tend   to   put   too   much   emphasis  on  rap  to  the  exclusion  of  other  elements,  I  agree  that  entire   books   could,   and   I   hope   will,   be   written   on   Japan’s   break-­‐dance,   deejay,  and  graffiti  scenes.  My  choice  of  topic  is  not  meant  to  suggest   that  rapping  is  the  most  important  part  of  hip-­‐hop.  Rather,  I  find  rap   particularly  instructive  because  it  is  the  most  commercially  successful   aspect  of  hip-­‐hop  and  because  it  involves  a  deep  engagement  with  the   language.  Although  I  have  titled  the  book  “hip-­‐hop  Japan,”  and  in  part  I   aim  to  provide  a  broad-­‐based  overview,  I  am  acutely  aware  that  this   monograph   captures   only   a   small   fraction   of   hip-­‐hop’s   diverse   manifestations  (Condry,  2006:  220).    

 

Condry’s  work  focuses  on  “sites  of  performance,  what  artists  and  fans  call  the  Genba,   or  the  actual  site,  of  the  Japanese  hip-­‐hop  scene,  referring  to  the  all-­‐night  dance   clubs  where  the  combined  efforts  of  artists,  fans,  and  promoters  fed  the  fire”  

(Condry,  2006:  2).  While  the  commercialization  of  Hip-­‐Hop  is  something  I  will  touch   on  later  in  this  work,  it  inherently  escapes  the  underlying  meaning  fueling  actor’s   connection  to  what  is  called  Hip-­‐Hop.  While  rap  (which  is  not  the  same  as  the   accompanying  music  [beat],  but  is  difficult  to  separate  from  it)  may  be  the  most  

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ubiquitous  form  of  what  is  known  as  Hip-­‐Hop,  it’s  not  the  rap  itself  that  seems  to  be   the  attraction,  but  more  of  what  is  felt  by  the  person  engaging  in  doing  it  or  

listening.  Condry’s  Genba  clearly  states  it’s  intention,  members,  and  reason  for   being,  whereas  the  scene  at  De  Duivel  is  far  more  illusive  in  its  comprehension  and   purpose,  but  it  is  by  far  and  away  considered  the  preeminent  location  for  Hip-­‐Hop  in   Amsterdam.  So  again,  we  arrive  at  the  question,  what  is  Hip  Hop?    

 

Anthropologists  and  sociologists  deal  with  this  and  similar  questions  with  a   combination  of  creating  a  spatial  (time  or  physical)  or  categorical/conceptual   (culture,  community,  style)  boxes  to  hold  definitions,  often  in  conjunction  with   demographical  characteristics  and  unique  observations  and  anecdotes.  These  efforts   are  often  party  to  or  completely  motivated  by  the  researcher’s  admitted  inability  to   deal  with  the  vast  scope  of  the  issue  on  nearly  any  level.  Condry  explains:    

I  came  to  this  project  as  a  graduate  student  in  cultural  anthropology   interested  in  the  intersection  of  global  and  local  cultures  (and  also  as   a   fan   of   American   hip-­‐hop).   After   listening   to   some   albums   by   the   Japanese  groups,  Rhymester  and  Scha  Dara  Parr,  I  was  struck  by  what   unique   perspectives   they   brought   to   their   society.   I   decided   that   depicting   what   Japan   looked   like   from   the   perspective   of   a   Japanese   rapper  would  add  something  I  had  yet  to  see  in  my  years  of  studying   Japanese  culture.    But  when  I  began  fieldwork  in  the  fall  of  1995,  the   number  of  potential  sites  was  daunting.  There  were  the  places  where   the  music  was  produced:  record  companies,  recording  studios,  home   studios,  and  in  some  cases  on  trains  (some  artists  programmed  beats   using  portable,  handheld  synthesizers).  There  were  the  places  where   the  music  was  promoted:  music  magazines,  fashion  magazines,  TV  and   radio   shows,   nightclubs,   and   record   stores.   There   was   also   the   interaction  between  musicians  and  fans  to  be  observed  at  live  shows   or  in  mediated  form  on  cassettes,  CDs,  and  twelve-­‐inch  LPs.  Besides,   hip-­‐hop  includes  not  only  rap  music  but  also  breakdancing,  deejaying,   and   graffiti,   and   all   of   these   aspects   took   their   own   shape   in   Japan.   One   of   the   tenets   of   anthropological   fieldwork   is   that   you   cannot   understand  a  people  without  being  there,  but  in  the  case  of  hip-­‐hop,   where  is  “there”  (Condry,  2006:  5)?  

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As  the  question,  what  is  hip-­‐hop,  lingers,  a  new  question  emerges;  what  is  this  space   the  social  scientist  reaches  for  that  is  so  difficult  to  grasp?  As  Condry  explains  the   approach  to  his  fieldwork  he  describes  the  overwhelming  diversity  of  his  subject.   Within  his  examples  there  are  clues  as  to  where  “there”  is.  “There”  seems  to  be   spread  between  the  seat  of  artist’s  expression  and  the  consumption  of  the  products   of  that  expression,  but  put  in  this  light,  what  is  hip-­‐hop  about  this  movement?  Was   Andy  Warhol  hip-­‐hop?  Could  one  just  as  easily  be  talking  about  Frank  Mason   Robinson  (he  designed  the  Coca-­‐Cola  logo  125  years  ago)(www.wikipedia.org   “Frank  Mason  Robinson,,”  January  17,  2014)?  Yes,  hip-­‐hop  “passed  all  your  tall   social  hurdles”  (Mos  Def,  1999:  track  16)  and  completely  exploded  down   mainstreams  worldwide,  but  is  this  mainstream  explosion,  this  chronic   capitalization,  is  that  what  hip-­‐hop  is?  Of  course  not!  It’s  just  something  that   happens  with  popular  products.  Why  is  Coke  popular  is  one  question,  but   carbonated  water,  sugar,  caffeine,  phosphoric  acid,  caramel  color  (E150d),  and   natural  flavorings  is  what  it  is  (www.wikipedia.org,  Coca-­‐Cola:  Ingredients,  January   18,  2014,  para.  33).  Is  there  a  recipe  or  formula  for  Hip-­‐Hop?  

 

Mos  Def,  a  rapper  from  Brooklyn,  New  York  states  on  his  debut  album,  Black  on  Both   Sides  (a  reference  to  the  pejorative  slang  Oreo,  where  a  black  person  is  criticized  for   being  black  on  the  outside,  but  white  within),  “When  you  want  to  know  where  hip-­‐ hop  is  going,  ask  yourself,  ‘Where  am  I  going?  How  am  I  doing?’  until  you  get  a  clear   idea.”  For  Mos  Def  the  answer  to  Condry’s  question  is  simple:  do  not  divide  yourself   from  what  it  is  you  are  trying  to  understand.  How  is  Hip-­‐Hop  in  Japan?  Are  you  Hip-­‐ Hop?  Are  you  in  Japan?  Are  you  Hip-­‐Hop  in  Japan?  Well,  how  are  you?  While  this   may  seem  to  be  a  gross  oversimplification,  it  may  be  exactly  the  space  necessary  to   investigate  such  a  question.  What  can  be  seen  that  is  not  already  known,  being   experienced,  felt,  or  contemplated?    

 

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During  my  stay  in  Amsterdam  I  met,  worked  with,  and  befriended  a  Dutch  rapper   named  Mathijs  who  goes  by  the  moniker  De  Prof.  When  we  sat  down  for  an  

interview  my  first  question  was,  “How  long  has  Hip-­‐Hop  been  in  your  life?”  Without   a  moment’s  hesitation  he  answered,  “12  years.  No  14  years.”  I  continued,  “How  did   you  come  up  with  that  number?”  He  answered,  “because  I  was  12  and  now  I’m  26.”   He  proceeded  to  tell  a  story  of  a  guy  selling  burned  CDs  in  school  and  when  he   inquired  for  a  purchase  he  heard  the  name  LL  Cool  J  (an  American  rapper  from   Queens,  NYC,  New  York)?,  it  sounded  familiar,  so  he  bought  it,  and  thus  had  his  “first   Hip  Hop  CD.”  

ME  “So  what  album  was  it?”    

MATHIJS  “It  was  a  compilation  and  Mama  Said  Knock  You  Out  was  the  first  song  on   the  album.  So  I  played  it  and  I  was  like,  “Damn!”  …    

 

[We  both  sing  the  first  lines]  “’Don’t  call  it  a  come  back,  Ugh!,  I  been  here  for  years!’”    

MATHIJS  “And  that  was  so  dope  because  he  only  says  ‘Don’t  call  it  a  come  back’  and   then  he  says,  ‘Ugh!’  like  he  just  said  some  amazing  shit.”  

 

ME  “What  did  he  say  that  made  you  interested  even  if  you  didn’t  think  it  was   amazing.”  

 

MATHIJS  “Well  I  did  think  it  was  amazing.”    

ME  “Why  did  you  think  it  was  amazing.  What  was  attractive  about  it?”    

MATHIJS  “It  sounded  like  raw,  like  hard!”    

ME  “Why  did  that  sound  good?”    

MATHIJS  “I  don’t  know,  I  just  liked  that.”    

First,  I  ask  Mathijs  to  date  his  relationship  with  Hip-­‐Hop.  This  question  alone  is  full   of  assumptions.  Firstly,  that  we  both  know  what  is  meant  when  I  say  Hip-­‐Hop.  This   question  comes  at  the  very  beginning  of  the  interview.  He  doesn’t  hesitate  to  decide   if  I  know  what  I’m  talking  about,  if  I  will  understand  his  meaning  of  Hip-­‐Hop,  or  any  

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other  deliberation.  As  far  as  I  could  observe  being  there  and  listening  back,  there   isn’t  any  doubt  or  lapse  in  communication  between  the  two  of  us  as  the  question  is   posed  and  the  answer  given.  What  did  we  share  in  that  moment?  Was  it  a  silent   agreement  to  keep  conversation  going  no  matter  what  –  certainly  not  on  my  end.   What  is  clear  however  is  that  on  some  level  Mathijs  equated  Hip-­‐Hop  with  music,   music  with  a  rapper.    

 

His  memory  of  the  moment  was  sharp,  detailed,  and  seemingly  fresh  in  his  mind.  As   he  recalls  the  first  track  on  the  album,  the  classic  Mama  Said  Knock  You  Out,  his   excitement  was  obvious.  A  smile  grew  widely  across  his  face  as  we  both  began  to   sing  the  lyrics  in  identical  time  and  imitating  the  emphasis  with  which  LL  Cool  J   originally  delivered  the  lines.  Nowadays,  rappers  are  often  judged  by  their  use  of   clever  wordplay,  similes,  metaphors,  and  insults  with  great  flows  over  the  music,   but  here  LL  just  exclaims  “Don’t  call  it  a  comeback!”  before  he  grunts  to  let  you   absorb  the  line.  Hence,  it’s  funny  as  Mathijs  points  out  that  he  acts  as  if  “he  just  said   some  amazing  shit.”  However,  as  Mathijs  points  out,  it  wasn’t  that  what  he  said  was   necessarily  amazing,  but  how  he  said  it;  “It  sounded  like  raw,  like  hard!”  This  was   the  feeling  that  Mathijs  connected  with  and  the  feeling  that  connected  him  with  Hip-­‐ Hop  from  that  moment  on.  As  we  examine  this  recollection,  what  serves  as  the   definition  of  Hip-­‐Hop  -­‐  or  more  importantly,  what  was  at  the  root  of  connection   between  Mathijs  and  LL  Cool  J?  Certainly  there  seems  to  be  identification  with  the   rawness  and  aggressive  nature  of  LL’s  delivery.  What  is  the  root  of  that  rawness  in   Mathijs,  that  aggressive  nature?  Whatever  it’s  root  in  Mathijs,  he  says  this  was  when   Hip-­‐Hop  entered  his  life,  so  the  root  of  what  connected  him  to  this  moment  could   not  have  possibly  been  Hip-­‐Hop,  unless  of  course  Hip  Hop  is  not  music,  the  four   aforementioned  elements,  the  commercialization  of  artistry,  or  the  frantic  

networking  occurring  in  Japan’s  Genba  scene.  The  engagement  with  Hip-­‐Hop  may  be   observed  to  live  between  a  person  and  an  event/thing,  but  another  possible  

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Sitting  down  with  Ashanti  Richardson,  a  communications  major,  DJ,  emcee  (rapper),   and  photographer  born  in  St.  Maarten  and  raised  in  Amsterdam,  we  get  another  look   at  the  illusiveness  of  saying  what  is  Hip-­‐Hop  versus  the  ease  with  which  it  can  be   spoken  about.  I  first  met  Ashanti  in  2010  while  she  was  Dj-­‐ing  after  I  performed  a   show  bringing  in  the  New  Year.  I  was  immediately  struck  by  her  use  of  vinyl  records   versus  MP3s  or  CDs.  Interviewing  her  three  years  later  she  highlights  the  personal   nature  of  her  relationship  to  Hip-­‐Hop  and  what  Hip-­‐Hop  means.  

ME  So,  what  is  Hip-­‐Hop  then?  And  not  necessarily  what  music  is  Hip-­‐Hop,  but  what   is  Hip-­‐Hop?  What  is  the  definition  of  Hip-­‐Hop?  

 

ASHANTI  I  think  if  that  were  a  simple  question  then  there  would  be  a  definition.  I   don’t  think  there  is  one  definition  at  this  point  people  never  agree  but  to  me  Hip-­‐ Hop  is  more  like  a  way  of  life,  a  choice  in  living.  Yeah,  like  keeping  it  real,  but  then,   really,  that  right  now  is  just  a  corny  line  that  people  who  don’t  keep  it  real  use  to   seem  like  they’re  keeping  it  real.    

 

ME  You  said  it  would  be  a  privilege  to  be  seen  as  Hip-­‐Hop,  so  if  Hip-­‐Hop  is  a  way  of   life  how  do  you  know  somebody’s  living  it?  

 

ASHANTI  Wow…    

ME  Or  even  that  you’re  living  it?    

ASHANTI  Because  I  can’t  necessarily  define  it  for  another  person  if  their  living  it  or,   it’s  kind  of  difficult  to  tell  maybe  that’s  why  I  would  not  so  quickly  say  I  am  Hip  Hop.   I  think  that  it’s  quite  difficult  for  me.  It’s  like  more  like  a  feeling  thing  it’s  just  like   you  can  never  be  sure  if  it’s  the  case  or  not  but  sometimes  you  just  see  someone  or   you  meet  someone  and  you  have  a  conversation  and  you  can  really  link  and  then   you  know  (laughter)  

 

ME  Then  you  know  (laughter)    

ASHANTI  Yeah,  it’s  kind  of,  it  is  kind  of  vague  though,  but  you  know,  I  think  it’d  have   to  be  staying  true  to  yourself  as  well.  Like  not  trying  to  be  something  you’re  not  and   just  sticking  with  that.    

 

Again  we  are  confronted  with  an  understanding  of  Hip  Hop,  which  seems  to  be   completely  above  the  ubiquitous  and  static  four-­‐element  definition  and  resting  in  a  

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space  allowing  for  application  to  almost  any  person  on  the  planet.  Immediately   Ashanti  recognizes  that  the  question  is  extremely  difficult,  but  we  had  also  been   discussing  the  topic  freely  for  more  than  15  minutes  at  that  point.  She  says  it  would   be  a  privilege  to  be  seen  as  Hip-­‐Hop,  in  reference  to  those  she  clearly  identifies  with   Hip-­‐Hop  (I  mentioned  KRS-­‐ONE,  Mos  Def,  and  Talib  Kweli)1,  but  at  the  same  time  

when  it  comes  to  describing  what  Hip-­‐Hop  is  she  doesn’t  describe  these  people.   Instead,  she  delves  into  an  idea  of  authenticity,  not  necessarily  authentically  Hip-­‐ Hop,  but  just  authentic  in  general.  While  I  won’t  delve  into  the  labyrinth  of  what  is   authenticity,  suffice  it  to  say  that  Ashanti  is  overwhelmingly  claiming  that  Hip-­‐Hop   is  something  that  can  only  be  seen  or  experienced  personally.  As  for  the  

commercialization,  which  Condry  focuses  on,  Ashanti  had  this  to  say:    

“…  if  you  say  like  a  Mos  Def  or  a  Talib  Kweli,  Black  Star  ummm,  to  me   that’s  Hip-­‐Hop.  And  if  you  ask  me  how  is  Hip-­‐Hop  doing  I  think  Hip-­‐ Hop  is  doing  just  fine  because  I’m  just  selective  in  what  I  call  Hip-­‐Hop   cus  if  you  have  like  the  whole  50  cent  trap  movement  whatever  like   uh   I   don’t   know   lil   john   thing   …   to   me   that   is   simply   not   Hip-­‐Hop   if   that  would  be  Hip-­‐Hop  then  I  would  say  maybe  Hip-­‐Hop  is  sick  it’s  not   okay  but  its  not  cus  it  doesn’t  really  have  that  much  to  do  with  Hip-­‐ Hop   because   I   think   Hip-­‐Hop   is   expressing   yourself   to   me   its   something  genuine  and  once  you  take  that  out  and  make  it  something   purely  commercial  trying  to  reach  as  many  people  as  you  can  just  to   make  a  lot  of  money  that  has  nothing  to  do  with  Hip-­‐Hop  its  just,  its   just  marketing.”    

 

The  condemnation  of  commercialized  anything  is  a  popular  sentiment  in  

conversations  about  Hip-­‐Hop,  both  academic  and  amongst  the  actors  (artists  and   fans).  Hip-­‐Hop  music  has  long  been  split  between  the  underground  and  the                                                                                                                  

1  KRS-­‐ONE  was  a  popular  and  influential  rapper  in  the  80s  as  part  of  Boogie  Down  Productions  and   for  the  past  20  years  as  a  solo  artist.  KRS  is  known  for  his  music,  being  instrumental  in  the  evolution   of  rapping,  and  his  work  to  cement  the  understanding  of  Hip  Hop  through  the  creation  of  The  Temple   of  Hip  Hop,  a  literary  work  and  foundation  “for  the  spiritual  exploration  of  Hip  Hop’s  culture”  

(www.krs-­‐one.com/about.  January  23,  2014,  3pp).  Talib  Kweli  and  Mos  Def  shared  their  first  major   release  as  the  duo  Blackstar,  a  reference  to  Marcus  Garvey’s  Black  Star  Line  of  ships  taking  African   Americans  “back”  to  Africa  by  way  of  Liberia.  The  duo’s  self-­‐titled  album  and  previous  features  and   mixtape  work  cemented  them  as  the  new  leaders  of  the  underground,  conscious,  back-­‐pack  Hip  Hop   sphere  in  the  late  90s.  Since  then,  they’ve  continued  to  represent  the  anti-­‐commercial,  artistic,  and   positive  identity  of  Hip  Hop  music.    

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mainstream  within  and  beyond  its  ranks.  A  great  deal  of  rapping  concerns  the   condemnation  (dissing  [a  slang  for  disrespecting])  of  other  rappers,  rap  styles,  but   more  often  the  entire  character  of  a  person.  This  person  can  be  a  specific  individual,   but  is  more  frequently  a  hypothetical  person  who  personifies  the  polar  opposite  of   character  the  rapper  claims  to  embody.  It  is  here  where  one  can  begin  to  see  how   Hip-­‐Hop  can  be  regarded  as  representing  more  than  music,  but,  similarly  to  

Ashanti’s  previous  comments,  as  an  entire  way  of  thinking,  acting,  living,  and  dying.   For  instance,  the  song  that  caused  an  eruption  in  De  Duivel  during  my  first  

observation,  Shook  Ones  by  Mobb  Deep,  has  the  following  lyrics  in  it’s  chorus  and   first  verse  by  rapper  Havoc:    

 

To   all   the   killers   and   the   hundred   dollar   billers/   For   real   niggas   who   ain’t  got  no  feelings…  

 

I   got   you   stuck   off   the   realness/   we   be   the   infamous   you   heard   of   us/   official   Queen’s   bridge   murderers/   the   Mobb   comes   equipped   for   warfare/  beware  of  my  crime  family  who  got  ‘nuff  shots  to  share  for  all   those/   who   wanna   profile   and   pose/   rock   you   in   your   face   stab   your   brain  with  your  nose  bone/  you  all  alone  in  these  streets  cousin/  every   man  for  they  self  in  this  land  we  be  gunnin’/  and  keep  them  shook  crews   running/  like  they  supposed  to/  they  come  around  but  they  never  come   close  to/  I  can  see  it  inside  your  face/  you  in  the  wrong  place/  cowards   like  you  just  get  they  whole  body  laced  up/  with  bullet  holes  and  such/   speak  the  wrong  words  man  and  you  will  get  touched/  you  can  put  your   whole  army  against  my  team  and/  I  guarantee  you  it’ll  be  your  very  last   time  breathing/  your  simple  words  just  don’t  move  me/  you’re  minor  we   major/  you  all  up  in  the  game  and  don’t  deserve  to  be  a  player/  don’t   make  me  have  to  call  your  name  out/  your  crew  is  featherweight/  my   gunshots   will   make   you   levitate/   I’m   only   19   but   my   mind   is   old/   and   when  the  things  get  for  real  my  warm  heart  turns  cold/  another  nigga   deceased/   another   story   gets   told/   it   ain’t   nothing   really/   hey   yo   dun   spark  the  Philly/  so  I  can  get  my  mind  off  these  yellow  back  niggas/  why   they   still   alive   I   don’t   know   go   figure/   meanwhile   back   in   Queens   the   realness   the   foundation   if   I   die/   I   couldn’t   choose   a   better   location/   when  the  slugs  penetrate/  you  feel  a  burning  sensation  getting  closer  to   god/  you  in  a  tight  situation  now/  take  these  words  home  and  think  it   through/  or  the  next  rhyme  I  write  might  be  about  you  

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Son   they   shook   ‘cus   ain’t   no   such   things   as   halfway   crooks   scared   to   death  and  scared  to  look  chorus  repeats  

 

Living  the  life  that  of  diamonds  and  guns/  there’s  numerous  ways  you   can   choose   to   earn   funds/   some   get   shot   locked   down   and   turn   none/   cowardly  hearts  and  straight  up  shook  ones  

 

He  ain’t  a  crook  son  

He  just  a  shook  one  (Mobb  Deep,  1995,  track  15)    

That  night  in  De  Duivel,  most  people  sang  and  mouthed  the  lyrics  to  this  song,  word   for  word.  I  just  typed  the  lyrics  in  this  paper  from  memory  and  checked  with  the   song  finding  I  made  7  mistakes,  mostly  prepositions  (this  accomplishment  gives  me   a  sense  of  pride).  As  you  can  see,  there  are  a  lot  of  words  in  the  average  rap  song.   There  are  probably  more  words  in  some  rap  songs  then  there  are  in  some  entire   operas.  Rap  can  be  and  often  is,  directly  in  the  face  of  the  issue,  clearly  stating  its   assumed  identity,  accompanying  behavior,  desires,  and  values.  How  does  one  go   about  defining  the  meaning  or  character  of  Havoc’s  words?  All  of  this  you’re   experiencing  now,  reading,  without  hearing  the  dark  and  eerie  beat  (produced  by   Havoc)  the  rap  flows  along.  Through  rap,  Hip-­‐Hop  speaks  for  itself.  Consequently,  it   is  often  easier  to  say  what  it  isn’t  than  what  it  is.  Mathijs  made  this  point  clear  when   I  asked,  “When  did  you  first  remember  learning  that  Hip  Hop  might  be  something   more  than  music?”  He  answered,  “That  happened  as  I  was  listening  to  it.  I  started   knowing  it’s  not  only  rap.  Because  at  first  you  just  listen  to  rap,  you  know,  I  like  the   sound…  As  you  get  older  you  start  to  understand  the  lyrics  and  actually  the  emcees   told  me  about  Hip-­‐Hop.”  Conversely,  when  I  asked  him,  “When  was  that  moment   you  thought  to  yourself  this  is  bigger  than  music,”  looking  for  a  specific  anecdotal   moment,  he  answered,  “After  Hip-­‐Hop  came  djing  and  beginning  to  understand   that’s  a  part  of  it  and  later  on  there  was  the  dancing,  the  breaking,  and  the  graffiti   came  last.”  In  the  earlier  response  Mathijs  states  that  emcees  told  him  about  Hip-­‐ Hop,  but  in  the  next  statement  (this  was  the  order  of  the  questions  as  they  occurred)   he  uses  the  term  ‘Hip-­‐Hop’  to  refer  to  rap  then  he  refers  back  to  the  four  elements  to  

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be  able  to  say  what  Hip-­‐Hop  is  if  it’s  bigger  than  music.  At  the  very  beginning  of  our   conversation  I  asked  Mathijs  the  direct  question,  “Are  you  Hip-­‐Hop?”  

MATHIJS  “Yeah.”    

ME  “Why?”    

MATHIJS  “Because  I  think  you  are  Hip  Hop  if  you  do  something  with  Hip  Hop  and   that  could  be  listening  to  it,  making  it,  dancing,  breaking,  whatever.”  

 

ME  “Do  you  have  to  listen  to  it  a  certain  amount?  What  if  I  listen  to  one  Hip-­‐Hop   song  every  month.”  

 

MATHIJS  “I  do  think  you  have  to  listen  to  it  a  certain  amount,  but  being  Hip  Hop  is   not  really  something  to  reach  like  “now  I  am  Hip  Hop.”  [Laughter]  I  think  you  know   for  yourself  if  you  are  Hip  Hop  or  not…  I  think  people  listening  to  it  a  lot  or  making   Hip-­‐Hop  I  think  that  is  Hip-­‐Hop,  if  you  live  it,  if  you  consider  it  a  big  part  of  your   life.”    

 

Again  we  have  Hip-­‐Hop  compared  to  the  entirety  of  a  life,  a  present  life,  something   you  are  when  you  are  who  you  are,  not  who  you  were  or  who  you’re  going  to  be,  but   who  you  are  right  now,  in  physical/material  reality  and/or  the  feeling  in  your   current  intention.    

 

Searching  for  a  Space  

 

Michael  Jackson  recognizes  the  diversity  available  in  the  examination  of  any  facet  of   life  a  researcher  may  seek  and  gets  deep  at  the  issue  in  an  attempt  to  find  the  

greatest  value  in  ethnographic  work.  In  his  2005  work,  Existential  Anthropology  he   states  the  following:    

 

As  I  see  it,  an  ethnography  of  events  seeks  to  explore  the  interplay  of   the   singular   and   shared,   the   private   and   the   public,   as   well   as   the   relationship  between  personal  reasons  and  impersonal  causes  in  the   constitution   of   events   (see   Davidson   1980).   As   such,   it   approaches   everyday   life   from   an   existential   point   of   view   –   as   a   series   of   situations   whose   challenges   and   implications   always   ramify   beyond   the  sociocultural  (cf.  Malkki  1997:  87)…  When  I  speak  of  the  sense  of  

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an  event,  I  mean  the  irreducibility  of  its  meaning.  When  I  speak  of  the   significance   of   an   event,   I   mean   its   social   and   ethical   ramifications.   (Jackson,  2005:  xxvi-­‐xxvii).    

 

Surely,  the  sense  or  significance  of  an  event  may  be  terribly  difficult  to  grapple  with,   but  only  because  the  event  is  a  synergy  of  personal  sense  and  significance,  which  on   an  individual  level  may  be  only  as  deep  as  a  conversation.  Later  in  my  conversation   with  Mathijs  he  mentioned  that  his  father  died  not  more  than  two  months  before  he   got  that  first  Hip-­‐Hop  CD,  that  LL  Cool  J,  that  Mama  Said  Knock  You  Out,  that  “raw”   and  “hard”  sound  that  he  didn’t  know  why  he  liked.  The  idea  of  this  connection  gets   at  the  heart  of  that  fuzzy  space  connecting  the  pieces  carved  out  by  social  scientist.  

Michael  Jackson  goes  on  to  say:  

Methodologically,   it   is   difficult,   if   not   impossible   to   produce   systematic  analyses  of  the  struggle  for  existence  in  the  way  one  might   produce,  for  example,  analyses  of  the  Darwinian  struggle  for  survival   or  ‘the  lineage  system’  of  the  Tallensi.  The  reason  is  that  we  can  never   grasp   intellectually   all   the   variables   at   play   of   any   action   or   all   the   repercussions  that  follow  from  it,  partly  because  they  are  so  variously   and   intricately   nuanced,   and   partly   because   they   are   embedded   in   singular  biographies  as  well  as  social  histories  (Jackson,  2005:  xxv).      

Thus,  the  diversity  is  broken  down  to  a  dichotomous  ‘singular  biographies’  and   ‘social  histories’  and  consequently  Jackson  presents  events  as  the  quintessential   moments  to  capture  the  crossroads  of  these  phenomena.  However,  as  one  can   observe  in  the  attempt  to  define  Hip-­‐Hop,  the  idea  of  something  that  is  being  lived  is   very  difficult  to  capture  because  of  it’s  personal  nature,  the  personal  perspective   and  ‘karma’  as  Jackson  calls  it;  but  is  it  “impossible  to  produce  a  systematic  analysis   of  the  struggle  for  existence?”  Some  would  argue  that  psychology  as  a  science  is  that   very  systematic  analyses  of  the  struggle  for  existence.  Regardless,  it’s  clear  that  any   attempt  at  a  systematic  analysis  would  have  to  be  based  on  a  commonality  shared   between  all  human  beings.  Possibly  there  is  a  clue  deeper  in  the  question;  what  is   the  “the  struggle  for  existence?”  What  exactly  is  entailed  in  this  struggle  for   existence?  Ashanti  sheds  some  light  on  a  potential  understanding  of  what  this  

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struggle  for  existence  actually  entails.  In  her  continued  attempt  to  define  Hip-­‐Hop   she  says,  “Yeah,  it’s  kinda,  it  is  kinda  vague  though,  but  you  know  I  think  it’d  have  to   be  staying  true  to  yourself  as  well.  Like  not  trying  to  be  something  you’re  not  and   just  sticking  with  that.”    

ME  So…  let’s  say  uhhh…  like  Van  Gogh,  you  know  he  was  true  to  himself  and  could   we  call  him  Hip-­‐Hop?  

 

ASHANTI  Uhhh,  I  wouldn’t  necessarily  call  him  Hip-­‐Hop,  could  call  him  a  lot  of   things…if  he’s  Hip-­‐Hop  then  I’m  Hip-­‐Hop  so  hey.  

 

ME  So,  alright.    

ASHANTI  Yeah,  you  know  but  uhhh  I  guess  it’s  more  complicated  than  that,  I  think   there’s  a  lot  of  things  that  for  me  have  to  be  unconscious  in  my  definition  of  Hip-­‐Hop   that  I’m  only  coming  to  realize  at  this  point.  It’s  just,  a  basic  way  of  living  in  how  you   treat  others  and  how  you  put  yourself  into  this  life  to  put  it  that  way  and  how  you   conduct  yourself  and  I  bet  that  if  you  would  ask  me  a  lot  of  questions  like  these  two   sided  questions,  like  is  this  Hip-­‐Hop  or  that,  I’d  probably  be  able  to  answer  all  of   them  but  if  you  ask  me  to  like…  

 

ME  Yeah,  give  me  one  thing,      

ASHANTI  Well  yeah,  just  one  definition,  cus  I  would  say  staying  true  to  yourself,  but   then  apparently  there  are  people  who  are  Hip-­‐Hop  and  then  aren’t  true  to  

themselves,  aren’t  Hip-­‐Hop  and  are  true  to  themselves  and  it’s  just  that  a  lot  of   people  try  to  pull  off  this  style  like  Hip-­‐Hop  as  a  style  and  that’s  where  it  kinda  goes   wrong…  People  take  like  an  identity  that  they  look  up  to  or  that  they  like  and  then   imitate  this  style  that  can’t  actually  make  the  identity  there  own  because  it’s  not   their  own.  

 

ME  Well  whose  it?  Who  does  it  belong  to?    

ASHANTI  Well  your  identity  doesn’t  belong  to  anyone.    

ME  Well,  I  mean  the  Hip-­‐Hop  identity,  like  for  these  people  who  try  to  take  it  up  and   copy  the  style  but  they  can’t  because  it’s  not  really  their  own  identity  why  can’t   they?  

 

ASHANTI  I  think  they  just  see  a  certain  kinda,  swag,  a  certain  kind  of  

comfortableness  in  their  skin,  a  certain  kind  of  boldness,  a  certain  kind  of,  in  a  way   it’s  like  a  little  bit  of  a  rebel  or  like  standing  up  for  yourself  and  you  know,  like,  if  you   see  someone  that  has  their  beliefs  and  stands  up  for  their  beliefs  I  think  that  that’s  a  

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beautiful  thing  and  it’s  something  you  can  look  up  to  but  imitating  someone  that  has   vast  beliefs  and  stands  up  for  them  and  if  that  would  be  like  equality  of  justice  or   just  uh  consciousness  like  for  me  it’s  being  conscious  about  the  world  you’re  in  is  a   big  deal  and  consciously  conducting  yourself  is  a  big  deal  but  if  you  try  to  imitate   that  without  incorporating  it  into  yourself  and  just  trying  to  reenact  that  so  you  get   a  certain  kind  of  prestige  that’s  when  it  kinda  it  goes  wrong.    

 

As  Havoc  begins  in  Shook  Ones,  “We  got  you  stuck  off  the  realness;”  this  is  at  the  core   of  what  it  seems  Ashanti  is  attempting  to  point  out  as  Hip-­‐Hop.  What  does  it  mean  to   be  true  to  one  self?  Does  it  entail  an  internal  dialogue,  which  determines  the  course   of  your  actions,  your  external  appearance  and  the  content  of  your  interactions  with   society?  Do  you  give  a  cheerful  smile  and  good  morning  shout  to  your  neighbor   when  you  are  feeling  completely  depressed  and  angry?  Is  this  ‘keeping  it  real?’  Is  not   everyone  living  a  real  life?  Where  are  the  demarcations  for  real  and  fake?    

 

Ashanti  notices  during  her  comments  that  there  are  unconscious  aspects  of  her   definition  of  Hip-­‐Hop.  Is  it  possible  that  people  are  often  unconscious  of  what  being   true  to  themselves  actually  means?  Even  more  likely  is  that  a  person  may  not  be   completely  aware  of  why  they  feel  something  is  important  or  significant.  Where  do   our  definitions  and  understandings  of  the  ideas  which  guide  our  life  reside?    

 

Again  and  again,  Ashanti  alludes  to  a  way  of  living;  an  idea  of  identity  as  not  only   who  you  are,  but  also  how  you  live.  This  is  the  intersection  between  Jackson’s  ‘sense’   and  ‘significance’  (Jackson,  xxvii)  whereas  who  you  are  would  rest  in  the  sense  and   how  you  live  in  society  would  determine  a  great  deal  of  the  significance.  Jackson   brings  this  to  the  event  with  the  understanding  that  many  people  bring  their  sense   and,  as  I  would  say,  their  own  significance  to  the  public  sphere  and  therefor  an   interaction  occurs  which  creates  definition.  However,  as  one  can  see  with  Ashanti’s   attempt  to  grapple  with  the  definition,  the  interpretation  of  events  is  still  a  very   personal  occurrence.  While  there  may  be  a  great  amount  of  information  and   influences  from  the  public  spheres,  close  friends,  family,  media,  and  every  other  

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